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The answers to most questions are driven by the grand narratives that dominate human thought the world over. Without us even realising it. Narratives that emanate from the human need to navigate an overwhelming and contradictory world. By making stories to frame the chaos. By storytelling itself.

Under the Spell is a podcast series designed to provide a new lens from which to interpret our chaotic world. Hosted by renowned journalist, Michael Avery, this series looks to unpack the stories and themes from David Buckham and Robyn Wilkinson's eye-opening book, The Spell: A story of human progress and how the West lost its soul.

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The problem with apocalyptic thinking. David Buckham, co-author of The Spell, unpacks the cognitive dissonance of so many common day narratives, from climate change to AI. To learn more visit thespell.co.za.

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